• An ATM and kiosk industry response to President Obama

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In an interview this week on the Today show, Ann Curry asked President Obama why he hasn’t been able to convince businesses to hire more people. She cited a New York Times article which stated that since the recovery, companies have spent only 2 percent on hiring, but 26 percent on equipment.

Here is the president’s answer:

"There are some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers. You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM, you don't go to a bank teller, or you go to the airport and you're using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate. All these things have created changes in the economy…."

The way I hear him, self-service convenience devices are a reason we have fewer jobs.

A casual survey of the real world reveals that there are thousands of people who have jobs today because of the existence of ATMs and kiosks.

When you look at the entire industry chain – the manufacturers, processors, networks, financial institutions, deployers, cash providers, servicers, refurbishers, software providers, content creators, accessory sellers, and yes, even the regulators – we have created the equivalent of a small city of jobs.

Since when did the installation of airport check-in kiosks cause a ripple effect of layoffs? On the contrary, these machines have improved service, created a more efficient boarding process and provided a better overall customer experience. All good for business. Not to mention, a cause to hire people to support the machines and spend money with vendors.

The statement that struck me as the most uninformed was the president’s implication that ATMs have caused a loss of teller jobs.

According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the number of tellers employed by banks has grown from 453,150 in 1999 to 556,320 in 2010. That’s more than 100,000 new teller jobs in the past 11 years.

The FDIC reports that U.S. bank branches grew from 81,444 in 1992 to 99,109 in late 2010. While many bankers in the late '60s feared they would have to lay off tellers and close branches because of this new-fangled self-service machine, the opposite has in fact happened.

This has created more than just teller jobs – FDIC data states there were 1.8 million full-time bank employees (not to mention those in credit unions) in 1992. That number grew to more than two million in 2010, even with the layoffs during the financial crisis of the past few years.

The approximately 400,000 ATMs in the U.S. have further fueled economic growth by giving people access to their cash in the places where they spend it. What would happen to the retail industry – and the economy – if all the ATMs were pulled out of U.S. stores?

If we are to blame job loss on technological advancement, we must blame the mobile phone for a loss of jobs in the payphone industry. But I’m sure the 40,000 attendees and several thousand exhibitors at the CTIA Wireless show in Orlando earlier this year weren’t longing for the good old days.

In our little corner of the U.S. economy, I like to think the ATM and kiosk industries did their part to blunt the recession’s impact. I wish the president felt that way, too.

Tom Harper
President, ATM Industry Association
Publisher, ATMmarketplace.com and KioskMarketplace.com

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  • Richard Thoma
    about 11 months ago
    This is a two sided question. A right balance between technology and human work is necessary. Your example of airlines check-in sucks. The quality of service is poor at best. Machines can do a number of things but they are neither intelligent nor flexible. I understand that you wish to defend your industry, but as an expert in payment systems (with over 40 years of experience) I have witnessed a significant number of poor automation decisions.
  • Antonio Gutierrez
    about 11 months ago
    Efficiency generates jobs. Always.
  • Richard Thoma
    about 11 months ago
    Too optimistic. Not always and that's the point
  • Calvin Watkins
    about 11 months ago
    I believe your intention with the email blast titled "Obama: ATMs and kiosks play role in unemployment rates" was titled as such just to get people, particularly businesses, to respond to your email. I ask that you do not use such tactics to get attention. The self service industry exists because of necessity and nothing else. Necessity is the mother of invention. I don't believe that this industry needs to start trouble in areas where NONE exist right now. The WORST thing any of us, in the self service industry, needs is some lobbyist or labor union taking up a fight against self service kiosks in any industry. Please learn to pick your fights better and leave your political views out of your editorial. I believe that if you continue delivering important and relevant news and insights to this industry, then we all will benefit and profit from your efforts. Candidly submitted.
  • Victoria Preston
    about 11 months ago
    Dear Candidly Submitted,
    Having been a long-time reader of Kioskmarketplace.com, I can tell you that this website does not employ such tactics to gain attention. Whether you like the title of the email blast or not, it is wholly based upon the President’s comments. Let me remind you that, during his interview, he said that the reason private sector companies aren't hiring more people is not because of any of his policies or decisions, but because of automated machines like ATMs and airport baggage kiosks. ATMs and kiosks were in existence long before he took office, so for him to blame this industry for the unemployment rate is preposterous and insulting. His sole focus is on re-election, so he has to blame someone else. As for your suggestion that this site pick its fights better, your comment is misguided, much like the President.
  • Gary Conway
    about 11 months ago
    Businesses have long searched for ways to be more efficient because that translates directly to the bottom line. The Presidents suggestion that ATM's and kiosk's are somehow a reflection of business' reaction to the economy is simply absurd. These have been long emerging markets and I believe the President is simply looking for a place to hang his hat when being questioned about the economy. The best thing our government can do for the economy is to get out of the way and let capitolism do what it does best... and without interference. The ATM industry has done what American business does... create jobs and tax revenue
  • DARRYL MCDONALD
    about 11 months ago
    A definition of automation provided by Merriam Webster Dictionary -

    "Automation: automatically controlled operation of an apparatus, process, or system by mechanical or electronic devices that take the place of human labor."

    Tom Harper, Victoria, and Gary... Conservative lies failed once to defeat Obama in an election, and you all will fail again!
  • Victoria Preston
    about 11 months ago
    Mr. McDonald, thank you for the definition of the word automation. In a perfect world, these mechanical or electronic devices would just magically appear, but they don’t. It takes people to design them. It takes people to build them. It takes people to test them. It takes people to manufacture them. It takes people to deliver them. It takes people to install them. It takes people to maintain them.

    In a perfect world, these mechanical or electronic devices would work perfectly, but they don’t. It takes people to service them. It takes people to refurbish them. It takes people within other industries supporting these efforts to provide materials and resources. It takes people to regulate them.

    At what point in Obama’s term does he become accountable? The definition of accountability provided by Merriam Webster Dictionary: An obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one's actions. Public officials lacking accountability.
  • Tim Magill
    about 11 months ago
    In making the comments President Obama did nothing to slight the kiosk industry but he did identify the fact that industry is looking to automate and some sectors will shed jobs. I am seeing this in other sectors as well including some lending institutions who are looking to put low margin products to kiosks. In the end some industries will shed jobs and others will create BUT you cannot expect after going through 20 years of excess that in 3 years you will change the course of the American economy that fast. The very fact jobs are being added is a blessing.
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